BAR Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)

I thought I'd put together a few of the more commonly asked questions here in a small document.


  1. I was the second 50+ to cross the line in a 40+/50+ race but got no points. Why?
  2. With two races run together, how are points scored?
  3. I was the first D42 rider across the line. Why didn't I get points for first place?
  4. Why did I get points for 4th in the last time trial when I finished 2nd?
  5. I got no points for a race. Why?
  6. How are those team points awarded?
  7. Masters races - 5 year or 10 year scoring?
  8. My question isn't here. What's next?

  1. I was the second person age 50-54 to cross the line in a 40+/50+ race but got no points. Why?

    Of course, this also applies to other races that have different USCF categories but are run at the same time, for example Cat 3/4.

    You must look at the flyer to determine the actual listing of the race. Some races will be listed as 40+/50+ and have two separate payouts. This type of race is two separate races run concurrently. A race listed as:

    Men 40+/50+     47.5 miles      3/3     $135/$135       12:05pm $18
    

    is two races run concurrently. For this type of race, the BAR points will be broken into 40+ and 50+.

    However, if the race is listed with only one payout, then it essentially is only one race. It might be listed as 40+/50+, but with one payout it's really just a 40+ race. So points will be given to the top 15 riders regardless of age (or category) and the points will be placed into the appropriate category.

  2. With two races run together, how are points scored?

    According to the BAR rules, points are given to the top 15 riders regardless of category or age. Points are then placed in the riders appropriate age or category. So if there is a Mens Cat 3/4 race, then the top 15 riders would score points and a Cat 3 rider would get his points in the Cat 3 BAR and a Cat 4 rider would get his points in the Cat 4 BAR.

    There are two exceptions to this rule. The first is for time trials. Since I can order the results into the proper categories, riders will be split into separate categories and points awarded in each category. The second exception is if the race is actually two races run concurrently. This would basically mean two separate payouts.

  3. I was the first D42 rider across the line. Why didn't I get points for first place?

    Remember, the BAR is open to anyone regardless of team or where they reside. So if you finished 10th, you get points for 10th.

  4. Why did I get points for 4th in the last time trial when I finished 2nd?

    For a Time Trial (and only for a Time Trial) the posted results will be reordered to fit the BAR categories exactly. For example, a TT might list category 1 and 2 separately for prizes. But the BAR category is Cat 1/2. So the times will be taken a arranged so that results match the BAR category, then points are given from there.

  5. I got no points for a race. Why?

    One of the most common reasons for not getting any BAR points is your name isn't on the results. Check here for the results of the race. If your name isn't on the results, then obviously you "officially" didn't place. By the time I post results on the website, they have been "official" for days. You should have checked the results on race day.

    If you did show up on the results, then a possibility is that you're new to racing or new to the area and I know nothing about you. This is especially true if you did a race than spans multiple categories, for example 40+/50+. If you suspect this, send me your name, hometown and racing category or age and I'll get your points to you ASAP.

    If your name is there and you still don't have points, send me an

  6. How are those team points awarded?

    The computation of team points is not easy to explain so let's just look at an example.

    For each category in the BAR (i.e. 30, 35, 40, etc) the top three riders from each team are taken. Those points are added together to form the team score for that category.

    For example, the 30 BAR looks like this:

    So, for the team BAR, the top three riders in a category are taken. So taking the top three riders of each team in 30+ category, we get Team XYZ = 64 + 24 + 8 = 96 points, Team ABC = 54 + 12 = 66 points, and Team QWE = 10 points.

    Notice that John Smith was placed fourth for his team and therefore his points do no count in the team BAR.

    This is done for each category and all points from each category form the team score.

  7. Masters races - 5 year or 10 year scoring?

    The rules state:

    So, in a masters race, the top fifteen riders in any masters race would be scored exactly as they finished. The points would then be broken down into the respective riders category.

    However, there have been instances that some races have one purse for the race but list on the flyer that they are giving BAR points broken into 5 year increments. In this instance, BAR points will be giving in 5 year increments since the race flyer states this. All other cases, the above rule applies.

  8. My question isn't here. What's next?

    with your question and I'll answer it. Then you might even see your question here :-).